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    Anyone into Ruby/Rails?

    Big thanks to Jason for setting up this Ruby forum

    Anyone else into Ruby/Rails here?
    A J, July 26th, 2010 10:37 AM
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    No problem Since I have a bit of interest in learning it I figured it could be of great benefit
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    Heard the terms but no idea what it / they are..
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    Quote Originally Posted by richyrich View Post
    Heard the terms but no idea what it / they are..
    Ruby is the programming language which was developed in the mid-90's which has a syntax similar to Perl, combined with Smalltalk features. Ruby on Rails is a web application framework written in Ruby.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jmurrayhead View Post
    Ruby is the programming language which was developed in the mid-90's which has a syntax similar to Perl, combined with Smalltalk features. Ruby on Rails is a web application framework written in Ruby.
    Gotcha...And what's the advantage over say PHP, ASP.NET etc?
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    Same reason that php is better than ASP.Net or ASP.Net is better than php One of the things that Ruby boasts is an very simple, human-readable syntax.
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    I love the Ruby syntax - it just makes so much more sense to me.

    There are lots of advantages, but you have to weigh up what's best for you (some might see that it not being a compiled language a disadvantage - but some would see that as an advantage, for example).

    As a language for the web, Ruby with the Rails framework is up there with the best of them - check out the Rails Envy vids for a laugh: youtube.com/watch?v=p5EIrSM8dCA

    I don't really know much about ASP but in comparison to PHP, most will say Ruby is a 'proper' OOP language (where practically everything is an object) whereas PHP has it bolted on in bits n pieces - leaving you with a somewhat awkward oop experience. But like I said you have to work out what's best for you really.
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    Quote Originally Posted by A J View Post
    I don't really know much about ASP but in comparison to PHP, most will say Ruby is a 'proper' OOP language (where practically everything is an object) whereas PHP has it bolted on in bits n pieces - leaving you with a somewhat awkward oop experience.
    Classic ASP is not object-oriented at all. It is a scripting language, much like what PHP was. However, PHP is promising to become more OOP. ASP.Net is full-blown OOP.

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    But like I said you have to work out what's best for you really.
    That's the important part. People can rip on other platforms all they want...but it really has to do with what works best for the individual.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jmurrayhead View Post
    Classic ASP is not object-oriented at all. It is a scripting language, much like what PHP was.
    Yuck! I would avoid that then :lol:

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    However, PHP is promising to become more OOP. ASP.Net is full-blown OOP.
    Lol they've been saying that for years. I learnt the basics of PHP but just found it a bit disjointed, and the OOP side of it just felt like it was tacked on as an afterthought.

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    That's the important part. People can rip on other platforms all they want...but it really has to do with what works best for the individual.
    Couldn't agree more. I tried PHP, but wasn't fussed on it much. Tried Ruby and instantly felt more at home with it. Would definitely recommend people check out more than one language as I feel that's a good way to appreciate the one you end up with.
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    Quote Originally Posted by A J View Post
    Yuck! I would avoid that then :lol:
    I started with Visual Basic 6. When I moved to web development, Classic ASP was what I found to be easy since VBScript and Visual Basic have same syntax. Later on, I learned .Net using Visual Basic.Net and some C#. Couldn't be more happy

    Quote Originally Posted by A J View Post
    Lol they've been saying that for years. I learnt the basics of PHP but just found it a bit disjointed, and the OOP side of it just felt like it was tacked on as an afterthought.
    I'm iffy when it comes to PHP. I started to learn it but really didn't have much time to get too involved with it. The only reason for me wanting to learn it is so that I could build my own modifications for vBulletin. So it still might be something on my list.

    Quote Originally Posted by A J View Post
    Couldn't agree more. I tried PHP, but wasn't fussed on it much. Tried Ruby and instantly felt more at home with it. Would definitely recommend people check out more than one language as I feel that's a good way to appreciate the one you end up with.
    I agree...plus, having more than one language under your belt definitely will make you more marketable
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